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Elton John, greedy hypocrite
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Bertt Farve
15 years ago
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Playing for Rush Limbaugh's wedding?

He's that weak and desperate?

Astonishing... and inexcusible. No one single lay person has ever done more
to damage the cause of gay rights... and yet Elton John is willing to play
for his wedding? It's completely obvious now that Elton John is *not who we
thought he was.*

I never in a million years would have thought that Elton John would have
caved in to the desires of a scumbag like Limbaugh for money. So much for
anything he ever appeared to stand for, it's obvious all he cares about is
publicity and more and more money. Everything he ever stood for was just
tossed in the shitter and flushed.

Sometimes it takes a long time for people to show their true colors, but
eventually it happens. So much for anything I ever believed in or admired
about Elton John. He's now just a playtoy for the Doughbelly Pillsboy.

Disgusting.

Bertt Farve
I think, therefore I might be
JeffWeHo
15 years ago
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Bertt,

Where did you get this information? I can't fu*king believe it!


jeff
Bertt Farve
15 years ago
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It was all over the news last night. Reportedly the Pillsboy paid $1M for
the performance.

Bertt Farve
JeffWeHo
15 years ago
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:47:52 -0500, "Bertt Farve" <***@dramaland.com>
wrote:

Bertt, I just found this link:
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/06/07/Elton_John_Sings_at_Rush_Limbaughs_Wedding/

I can't believe Elton did that. He's going to have a lot of explaining
to do and hopefully will donate the Million dollars to his AIDS
foundation or maybe to a campaign in favor of Gay marriages.

This is incredulous. What the hell was he thinking.

He's really going to be on the 'hot seat' with the Gay community.

It will be interesting to see what he has to say about it.

Thanks for making me aware of this.

jeff
Brian Smith
15 years ago
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I was surprised to hear that he played at Rush's wedding as well but the
following might give a clue as to why he did so.

http://web.eltonjohn.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100528&contentid=10526672

Brian
JeffWeHo
15 years ago
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:47:24 -0600, "Brian Smith"
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Thanks for that Brian. I can't stop thinking about this and I think it
was just plain WRONG for Elton to do that.

But a million bucks will go a long way to helping people living with
HIV, so maybe this is sort of an 'in your face' to Rush.
Brian Smith
15 years ago
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It would be nice if he would address this directly. If he has I haven't seen
an article or interview of him doing so. On the surface it definitely does
not look good because it makes Elton seem like a hypocrite and/or very
greedy. If he wants to raise money for EJAF or any other charity he supports
he could easily have played other events.

Brian
Karen M
15 years ago
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Post by Brian Smith
I was surprised to hear that he played at Rush's wedding as well but the
following might give a clue as to why he did so.
http://web.eltonjohn.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100528&contentid=1052...
Brian
That's a response to the criticism he's taking for performing in
Israel, and is dated before the whole Limbaugh wedding-thing became
public knowledge. Big difference between the two, though certainly the
reasoning could apply to both.


Karen
Brian Smith
15 years ago
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Post by Brian Smith
I was surprised to hear that he played at Rush's wedding as well but the
following might give a clue as to why he did so.
http://web.eltonjohn.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100528&contentid=1052...
Brian
That's a response to the criticism he's taking for performing in
Israel, and is dated before the whole Limbaugh wedding-thing became
public knowledge. Big difference between the two, though certainly the
reasoning could apply to both.


Karen
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I realize what the article was about but his point seemed to be that music
transends politics. I'm not really sure I would agree that there's a big
difference between the two as there was a lot of criticism about him playing
in Morocco a few weeks ago. He and the government there were criticized by
conservative Muslims in Morocco because they thought he would corrupt their
youth, etc. My sense is that he's saying keep the music separate from
politics and use it to bring people together. Rush must feel the same way or
his new wife does. Then again, maybe Rush loves Elton and his homophobic
rants are playing to his audience. Who knows with these guys. Money trumps
beliefs 99% of the time and it's possible that both Rush and Elton put money
ahead of everything else. Maybe my memory is failing me but wasn't Elton
criticized years ago for performing with Axel Rose at the Freddie Mercury
benefit? The world obviously didn't end because of it and you could say the
same about when Elton performed with Eminem.

Brian
Bertt Farve
15 years ago
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You make that argument based on putting Eminem and Axel Rose up as
equivalent to playing for the Doughbelly Pillsboy simply on the basis that
he was paid money in every instance?

You make the case against Elton John very well with that argument, because
it just proves he cares a lot more about excess money he does not need, or
money for causes which he could easily raise in any number of admirable
ways, than he cares about standing up to one of the most racist, homophobic,
and cynical hatemongering media abusers on the planet. I'm disgusted.

I'm not carrying a torch for any particular cause, and I'm not gay, nor do I
have any special interest axe to grind in this controversy. I'm just a guy
who believes all people deserve respect (except Pillsboy), and who despises
hypocrisy.

Bertt Farve
I think, therefore I might be






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Brian Smith
15 years ago
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Money has nothing to do with those two other examples. I believe performers
don't get paid for performances on awards shows and he probably didn't get
paid for the Freddie Mercury Tribute either. Wasn't that for charity? My
point in bringing up those other examples is that Elton has always been
willing to take risks and he has been consistent about using his music to
bridge gaps. It is possible that is also the case with performing for Rush
but since it wasn't a public event I'm leaning toward he did it for the
money.
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Concerning Elton and money, maybe he needs the money. The guy tours nonstop
and it's hard to believe that after having done so since about 1997 that
money would even be an issue. But given his track record for being screwed
by managers, etc. he very well might need the money to maintain his
lifestyle. I also wonder at times how much money he wastes on David's pet
projects. My sense is way too much for what they've returned but that's
another topic altogether.

Brian
Jim Felterkunt
15 years ago
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Break a leg Brett.
Oh and are you going to play this year? Cause you are a washed up
head case who makes
Elton and Rush look normal.

Maybe you're Elton's account and you have fist hand information.

Yes, fist.
Bertt Farve
15 years ago
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Post by Jim Felterkunt
Break a leg Brett.
Oh and are you going to play this year? Cause you are a washed up
head case who makes
Elton and Rush look normal.
Maybe you're Elton's account and you have fist hand information.
Yes, fist.
You're so clever.

To answer your question about the coming season, most definitely, maybe.
However there is talk of bringing back the old "Queen For A Day" TV show, in
which case, fuck the NFL, I'm outta there and on to queener... err...
greener pastures!

Bertt Farve
I think, therefore I might be
ejfan1973
15 years ago
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There's some Internet hearsay that Elton gave the $1 million to EJAF.
I'd like confirmation on that.

If it's true, I'm all for Rush shelling out the $1 million to EJAF.
Poetic justice.
Don Grim-sby
15 years ago
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A little conservatism never hurt anyone. Elton has his conservative
sides.

Jack Meoff
15 years ago
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Look,
I'm no fan of the homosexual lifestyle- but I have always been able to
see Elton through his music and Bernies lyrics, not their lifestyles.
Sounds like business to me.

I've seen Elton 27 times over the past 36 years, bought all his
albums, shirts and other shit. So what's the big deal, maybe Rush or
his wife are just fans.
Bertt Farve
15 years ago
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Post by Jack Meoff
Look,
I'm no fan of the homosexual lifestyle- but I have always been able to
see Elton through his music and Bernies lyrics, not their lifestyles.
Sounds like business to me.
I've seen Elton 27 times over the past 36 years, bought all his
albums, shirts and other shit. So what's the big deal, maybe Rush or
his wife are just fans.
Hogwash. It's not as if he is starving and needed the gig. And it's not as
if he is a nobody with no agenda and no huge body of fans who have bought
into the causes he supposedly represents. Maybe all that crap about
supporting human rights is just a front for his fan base, and he really
doesn't believe in shit except for his next ginormous paycheck.

Personally, even if I was starving on the street I wouldn't accept one petty
dollar from the Doughbelly Pillsboy unless I knew I could use it to buy some
eggs to pelt him with. There's no more wretched example of bigotry and
hatemongering anywhere in the public media, and there's nothing I can think
of that would excuse a person who needs absolutely nothing from taking money
from him, and the thought of actually entertaining that fatass bag of
drug-contaminated excrement is utterly repulsive to me.

Bertt Farve
I think, therefore I might be


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Jack Meoff
15 years ago
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wow...
Helen Thomas comes to mind
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